Here’s the complete history of the three-year feud between Jimmy Page and his neighbour Robbie Williams

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It’s the most famous feud in rock music. No, not the Gallagher brothers from Oasis. It’s the ongoing feud between Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page and his neighbour, former Take That singer Robbie Williams.

The pair have fallen out over Williams’ ongoing plans to renovate his home. Page has repeatedly complained about the works, and the feud has gotten ugly in recent years, with Williams publicly insulting Page on stage and in interviews. And now the feud has reignited over Williams’ latest plan to expand the size of his basement.

We took a look back to comprehensively track the feud between Page and Williams:

January 21, 2013: Michael Winner died

Jimmy Page’s neighbour, film director and restaurant critic Michael Winner, died on January 21, 2013. He died at his London home, which is the property next door to Page’s main residence Tower House. Winner died after a long illness.

Winner and Page were good friends. Winner called Page “the best neighbour in the world” in an interview with The Independent and told Vice that “I adored him straight away.”

Page and Winner were so friendly that Page even recorded the soundtrack for Winner’s 1982 film “Death Wish II.”

December 2013: Robbie Williams bought the house next door to Jimmy Page

News broke on December 1, 2013 that Page was going to get a new neighbour: Former Take That singer Robbie Williams. Williams reportedly paid £17.5 million for the West London property.

December 2014: Williams applied to renovate his home

The event that kicked off the feud was Williams’ first set of proposed renovations. The Telegraph reported in January 2015 that Williams had filed a proposal with The Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea to renovate the house to a “contemporary standard of family living”.

Williams’ planned renovations reportedly included changes to the internal layout of the house, changes to the garden, and replacing the roof of the glass studio.

January 2015: Page complained over the plans, and Williams wanted to build a basement

However, Page objected to the planned works. He wrote a letter to The Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea in which he said that “I am extremely concerned that this work will cause vibrations and possible structural damage with my house”.

Page’s London home, Tower House, is a historic property which was built by architect William Burges and completed in 1881. Page purchased the house for £350,000 in 1972. It’s important to remember the history and significance of Page’s house, as it is a key reason why he objected to Williams’ renovations.

Page said in his complaint that he has “protected” his home for “over forty years” and said that “I am now faced with having to fight a new threat to this precious and unique building.”

But Page was also worried about his privacy. His initial complaint said that “it appears the proposed new window is at a height that will overlook the side of my house as well as the garden at the rear of my property, thus having a significant impact on the amenity of the house and its garden.”

Page went on to say that “I understand that much of the interior was altered (and therefore compromised) by the current owners’ predecessor, I believe most of the exterior of the original building remains intact and should therefore be considered sacrosanct.”

He also invited planning chiefs to his home to “make a full and proper assessment of the situation which gives rise to my concerns”.

It was reported in January 2015 that Williams had submitted another set of plans, this time for a two-storey basement extension that would have measured around 3,600sq/ft and included a swimming pool.

Large basement extensions like this have become common for large homes in West London, although they are often controversial.

Page expressed concern over the basement plans, and he wrote to the local council warning that Williams’ planned excavations could cause “catastrophic” damage to his home. He said that similar works carried out by his other neighbour caused “an alarming level of vibration” and “the fall of dust/debris.”

It was in this proposal that Page won his first minor victory. Williams originally planned to add a new window that Page complained would overlook his property. The new proposal dropped the plan for a new window.

March 2015: Williams withdrew his plans

Williams withdrew all of his renovation plans in March 2015, the same month that The Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea was due to rule on the plans.

April 2015: Williams submitted scaled back plans

Williams submitted a fresh set of proposals in April for renovations to his house. This time the proposals were less extreme. The plans for an underground extension with a swimming pool were gone, but Williams still wanted to make substantial changes to the existing property.

Williams reportedly submitted plans to lower the floors of the house and knock down some internal walls. “The proposed alterations have been considered in regard to a holistic programme of contemporary family living that will ensure the long term occupation and appropriate use of the place into the future,” the application read.

Also around this time, Page was photographed peering over the wall of Williams’ garden.

May 2015: Page complained for the third time

But Page still wasn’t happy. He wrote another letter to The Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea in May 2015 in which he urged the council to refuse Williams’ plans.

Page wrote that he was “re-assured” when Williams withdrew his first two sets of plans, but said that he wanted to object to the new plans because of concerns that they could damage his home.

Page also said he was unhappy with Williams’ plan to demolish the existing garage on his property and build a new one. Page called the planned garage “extremely unfortunate in architectural terms,” which is a very polite way of calling it ugly.

You can see the proposed garage design below:

July 7, 2015: Page lost his battle to stop the renovations

It was bad news for Page on July 7 when the local council gave permission for Williams to carry out the scaled back renovations to his home.

The local council said that Williams’ renovations posed “no harm to Tower House,” Page’s home. “There is no risk of the Tower House being affected by ground movement as a result of the proposed works,” the local council said, citing the analysis of Historic England.

Williams was ordered to install vibration monitoring equipment, and was advised to ask Page for permission to affix vibration monitors to Page’s home.

October 2015: Page complained about the building works

But the feud didn’t stop there. Page hired a firm of architects who complained in October 2015 over Williams’ building works. Page’s architects asked the local council whether Williams’ building works were being carried out properly, according to the council’s decision.

Williams’ Construction Traffic Management Plan, a document which outlines how the building work will take place, was rejected by the local council, but builders were still seen entering Williams’ property, and scaffolding was erected outside.

The local council rejected Williams’ building plan because it “failed to demonstrate that the proposals would be implemented in a manner to ensure highway safety or safeguard the living conditions of occupiers of surrounding properties.”

Page’s architects wrote to the local council, saying “I understand works commenced sometime ago and I would be grateful if you could confirm this does not contravene the conditions of consent for application no PP/15/01845.”

February 2016: Winner’s widow complained about Williams cutting down some trees and street art appeared

Things got more complicated for Williams in February 2016 when Winner’s widow, Geraldine Winner, complained that Williams planned to cut down several of the trees that her husband had planted.

Winner’s widow told The Mail On Sunday that “Michael planted them when they were just a foot high. He loved his garden, and did a lot of work in it.”

Things got even crazier when street artist Fussy Human erected a poster on the gate outside Williams’ home which read “Let me excavate you” and featured photographs of both Page and Williams.

June 2016: Page’s neighbours met to talk about the building works

Page’s neighbours supported him in opposing the renovations works, and it was reported in June 2016 that they met to discuss the building work. “We’re all having a meeting about it in June,” one local resident said.

That meeting was prompted by the building works overrunning. The Daily Mail reported that the works should have been completed in February. And the scaffolding permits reportedly expired in April 2016.

Work continued behind schedule, however. Despite the delay, the local council confirmed that Williams still had a permit to continue the building works.

September 2016: Page carried out his own building work, complained about noise levels, and Williams talked about the feud in an interview before mocking Page on stage

Page carried out his own renovations in September 2016 to the outside of his home. The Sun noted that Page’s renovation works included scaffolding company Millennium, which shares a name with one of Williams’ most popular songs.

Williams was interviewed in The Sun in September 2016, and he was asked about the long-running feud between him and Page.

“I won. Did we win? I don’t know if there are any winners, necessarily,” Williams said. “I do know it makes a great story and I’m really pleased, just for me in ­general for the rest of my life. I’m really pleased it’s Jimmy Page and not Jimmy the accountant.”

“It’s ­actually Jimmy Page from Led ­Zeppelin and it’s a wonderful story to have in your back pocket –  about, you know, the neighbour that doesn’t want to help you out.”

“I don’t think we’re friends, no. I don’t know Jimmy Page. We met briefly a couple of times but it was years ago, in passing, and I was in reverence of the great Jimmy Page. But it’s a great story, for you guys and for me, so everybody wins. Apart from us as a family, who would have liked to have been in 12 months ago but we can’t.”

Meanwhile, on September 11, Page reportedly complained about the noise level of works being done in Williams’ back garden. Williams’ builders were dismantling a shed but used power tools to take it down quicker. That day was a Sunday, though, and there are restrictions on how loud building work can be on Sundays.

And on September 25, 2016, Williams performed at The Roundhouse in London as part of the Apple Music Festival.

During his performance, Williams mocked Page on stage. Led Zeppelin hit “Whole Lotta Love” started playing, and Williams reportedly said “this one is for my next door neighbour,” before repeatedly singing “I’m gonna dig a big hole … and fill it full of shit,” seemingly a reference to Williams’ abandoned plans for a basement extension.

October 10, 2016: Williams finally moved in

Williams finally moved into the house on October 10, 2016, nearly three years after he purchased it. That seemed to suggest that the building works were finally over. Maybe the feud would end too? Well, no, it didn’t.

November 2016: Williams insulted Page during a Facebook Live broadcast

The feud could have ended with Williams moving into his home in October, but a bizarre incident with a Facebook Live broadcast in Italy resulted in Williams publicly calling Page mentally ill.

Williams was interviewed on the Italian radio show Radio Deejay in November 2016. While he was on air, Williams was asked about the feud with Page. “He doesn’t want you to do renovations?” Williams was asked. “He doesn’t want a lot of things to happen,” Williams answered.

The hosts pressed Williams on the feud, asking him if he had beef with Page. “Not from me, not from me,” Williams replied.

Then the hosts asked Williams if Page is “kind of like an asshole.”

“He’s not ‘kind of’,” Williams replied. “No, no, no, let me tell you: Our next door neighbour isn’t happy with us trying to renovate our house and it has caused a problem and it will probably continue to cause a problem. But what is great about this whole thing is it’s Jimmy Page from Led Zeppelin, and it’s not Jimmy the accountant from Chelsea so at least we’ve got a good story.”

Williams went on to explain that “we bought this house and it was dilapidated, you know. It needed fresh energy, new love. It just needed a lick of paint and, you know, new stuff to be added, and our next door neighbour sort of decided to concentrate all of his energy on trying to block everything. I think Jimmy is bored. I’m next door now, I’ve got a studio in my house. We could write songs together.”

The hosts then cut to an advertising break. Williams, believing he was off air, continued talking about Page. But what he didn’t realise was that the interview was being broadcast on Facebook Live, and everyone watching on the social network heard what Williams thought was off the record:

“Jimmy has been sitting in his car outside our house with the windows down, four hours at a time with a recording equipment,” Williams reportedly said.

The hosts commented that Page must have some high-end recording equipment. “Yeah, you would think,” Williams said. “He’s recording the workmen to see if they’re making too much noise. And also two weeks ago, the builders came in and he was asleep in his garden, waiting. Honestly, it’s like a mental illness. Like, concentration.”

The radio hosts then asked Williams who lived in the property before. “A director called Michael Winner. He did … Death Wish. He did the Death Wish films,” Williams said. “It’s really strange. At first it’s like, ‘Fuck, nooo!’ because it has taken so long – four years. But now it’s like, ‘What are you hiding? Is there something you’re hiding?’ So, so weird.”

After the interview ended, either Williams or the radio station realised what had happened. Both the Facebook Live broadcast and the online broadcast of the interview on the station’s website were deleted shortly after broadcast.

Also in November 2016, Winner’s widow gave her blessing to the renovation works that Williams had carried out. She had publicly opposed the changes, but now she backed Williams.

December 2016: Williams said Page was ‘more than a tit’

Williams was again asked about the feud in an interview with The Radio Times that was published in December 2016.

The interviewer mentioned Williams’ comments that were broadcast on Facebook Live the previous month. Williams said the incident was “
embarrassing,” and winced. “Because I’m a people-pleaser. And even though [Page’s] been more than a tit, I feel as though I’ve done something wrong. But at least he knows!”

April 2017: Williams submitted a new proposal for a shed on stilts in his garden

It looked like the feud between Page and Williams could restart when Williams submitted a proposal to build a modern outhouse in his garden.

The planning application was for a modern outhouse on stilts which would likely be visible from Page’s house.

The planning application showed that the proposed outhouse is modern in style. The application said it “is designed to provide a relaxation play space amongst the woodland setting. It is whimsical in its composition and incidental in its setting.”

The last time Williams submitted plans for an outbuilding was in April 2015 when he wanted to demolish and rebuild his garage. That prompted a stern letter from Page in May 2015 which called the proposed garage “extremely unfortunate in architectural terms”. But Page lost that battle and the renovation works went ahead.

May 3, 2017: Williams’ builders were fined £3,000 after a complaint by Page

The Evening Standard reported that Williams’ building form, CC Construction Ltd, was fined £3,000 on May 3 after Page complained on September 11, 2016 over noise levels. The builders had been dismantling a shed in Williams’ back garden on a Sunday, but they reportedly used power tools to get the job done quicker. There are restrictions over how much noise building works can make on Sundays, and Page complained that the builders were too loud.

The company was reportedly fined £3,000 and was also ordered to pay £1,500 in costs and a £170 victim surcharge.

May 21, 2017: Page didn’t object to Williams’ latest proposal

The deadline for objections to Williams’ proposed outbuilding came and went and there were no signs of a letter from Page.

LedZepNews contacted The Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea, who told us that “we have received four objections to the planning application PP/17/02365 which are available to view on our website. The author of the comments and their postal address are published to the website. None of the objections we have received are from Mr Page.”

June 27, 2017: Williams issued a public apology to Page

On June 27, Williams’ representatives contacted entertainment websites and newspapers with an apology to Page over Williams’ remarks that were broadcast on the Facebook Live stream.

Here’s the full statement:

“I would like to offer my sincere apologies to Jimmy Page, my neighbour, for my comments made before Christmas about him in relation to my recent building works, in which I likened alleged behaviour on his part to suffering from a mental illness. Jimmy Page has explained to me that certain specific factual assertions which I made were in fact not true and I am happy to accept what Jimmy Page says. I understand why Jimmy Page will have found my comments offensive and I apologise for any hurt that they have caused him and his family as a result. I did not intend my comments – which, so far as I am concerned, were made privately – ever to be published. I regret that the press went on to report them and I hope that the press will now remove them.”

August 10, 2017: Page’s lawyers announced he had reached a ‘confidential’ settlement with Williams

A law firm working for Page contacted British newspapers on August 10 to inform them that Page and Williams had reached a “confidential” settlement. The email from Page’s lawyers also included Williams’ full apology that he made in June.

February 2018: Page restarted the feud with a letter and gave a tour of his home to surveyors

Page restarted his feud with Williams on February 19, 2018 when he wrote to the local council in objection to Williams’ latest planned basement excavation.

Page wrote another strongly worded letter about Williams’ latest planning application. “The latest proposal for 31 Melbury Road [Williams’ house],” Page wrote, “seeks to create a new basement below the existing garden. I understand this will be to an overall depth of just under 8 metres from ground level, with much deeper excavation for the supporting pile foundations, which appear to contravene the council’s policy guidance that such basement development should not comprise more than a single storey.”

Page went on to call Williams’ latest plans “excessive” and said the consequences on his home could be “catastrophic.” He also expressed concern that Williams’ plan would involve removing trees from his garden, which Page’s house overlooks.

Page also included two new letters from experts with his own objection: One from a conservation architect, and another from a conservation engineer.

And on February 28, Page gave a tour of his home to surveyors hired by the local council. “Mr Page pointed out features and decorations of the Tower House that he considered fragile and some cracks evident in the hall and on archways on the upper floor,” the surveyors wrote.

March 21, 2018: Robbie Williams’ property consultants responded to Page’s letter

Robbie Williams hired property consultants Gerald Eve, who wrote a letter to the local council on his behalf and disputed various parts of Page’s February letter.

Gerald Eve did research on Page’s home, Tower House, and dug out an old quote from architect Norman Shaw, who said that Tower House was supported on “beds of concrete that are too astonishing.” It also quoted Shaw as likening Page’s home to a “fortress.”

Gerald Eve went on to dispute Page’s claim that his home would be affected by Williams’ planned basement, with the company saying that the building survived the Second World War bombing and reconstruction work that took place nearby.

The consultants admitted that Williams’ basement plans would involve removing some trees, but they said that they would plant new ones, and “in doing so will enhance the privacy of the private gardens of both the site and neighbouring Tower House in the longer-term.”

The consultants then rebutted several points of Page’s letter, including his claim that the height of the planned basement broke planning regulations.

April 2018: Williams’ outbuilding was approved, both Page and Williams were ‘hounded by vicious peacocks,’ and Williams rented out his London house

Williams’ application to build an outbuilding in his garden was approved by the local council on April 25. Page never objected to that application, however.

The Sun reported on April 29 that “vicious” peacocks were regularly escaping from nearby Holland Park and causing damage outside Page and Williams’ houses. “The birds then viciously peck the luxury vehicles, including Robbie’s 4×4 BMW, causing thousands of pounds of damage,” The Sun reported.

One anonymous local resident told The Sun that “these peacocks are an absolute nightmare. They have started attacking our cars because they’re attracted to their reflections. They tend to attack the black or navy blue ones because they can see themselves more easily.

“I saw one repeatedly bashing a £130,000 Lamborghini with his beak, which I tried to shoo away.

“I complained to the council but they say there is nothing they can do. These peacocks may look beautiful but they are a real menace.”

The Sun suggested that the peacocks were escaping through a side gate into the park. A spokesperson for the local council confirmed the report and said in a statement that “peacocks are large birds that are prone to wander. From time to time we receive calls about them straying from the park.”

Also on April 29, The Times reported that Williams had moved out of his London home and was renting it out for up to £40,000 a week.

May 2018: The local council provisionally approved Williams’ basement proposal, but then deferred it after Page appeared in person at a meeting

The Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea produced a report in May about Williams’ basement application which suggested that the Planning Applications Committee approve the proposal in a meeting on May 29.

The report noted Page’s objections but said that “the proposals would preserve the heritage significance of the listed building, and the neighbouring listed building (the Tower House).”

That report lead Page to give an interview to The Sunday Times in which he said that he planned to attend the meeting on May 29 and defend his London home.

“I have got three minutes,” Page said. “I have to sum up the history of this house from the 1880s. The passion of Sir John Betjeman, Richard Harris and myself in three minutes. This is what we are facing. I may not even get to talk.”

Page invited The Sunday Times into his home to take photographs of him and review planning documents. He also gave the newspaper a tour of the property.

Elsewhere in the interview with The Sunday Times, Page said that he has considered opening his house to the public. “I did like the idea of the Burges interiors and maybe incorporating that with some memorabilia,” he said. “I thought about the National Trust. You can feel the house. It is such a special place.”

(Twitter/Frankie_Mack)

Sure enough, on May 29 Page attended the Planning Applications Committee meeting and gave a speech asking the committee to refuse Williams’ application.

“Tower House is a unique building,” Page said in his remarks to the committee. “You do need to see it to fully understand why I am here today as custodian of this wonderful, delicate, heritage building and treasure … I hope you appreciate my concern. Councillors, I urge you please to refuse these applications.”

The committee deferred the application because of strict building regulations around basements, meaning it will rule on the application at a later date. A video tweeted by a journalist in the meeting showed that Page appeared pleased by that result.

Page also gave an interview to BBC London News. “They may well be … I would assume that they’re ill-informed as to the building that they’re next door to,” Page said.

“I haven’t got a problem with people doing their houses one way or another as long as they don’t hurt mine. And when I say it’s mine, it’s actually, I’ve been there since 1972 and I’m sort of custodian of it really.”

And after the meeting, Page reportedly said that he only plays acoustic guitars in his London home because he’s concerned that vibrations caused by electric guitars could damage his property.

June 2018: Page called Williams ‘idiotic’ in a TV interview, hinted that he could take legal action against him, and invited The Daily Mail inside his home

Page gave an interview to ITV News on June 12 in which he called Williams “idiotic” and refused to rule out taking legal action against him.

“I think what happened was that there’s been a smokescreen of nonsense,” Page said, “and this sort of idiotic stuff of Jimmy Page is sleeping in his garden and all this sort of nonsense, which I did get an apology out of it, I must say.”

ITV News asked whether Page would consider taking legal action against his neighbour. “It will have to be whatever I have to do,” Page answered.

Elsewhere in the interview, Page said he thought a comment in a council filing by Williams was “really tasteless.”

“He did say something that was like ‘Well if Jimmy Page’s house could survive the Blitz then he can survive my schemes’ and I thought that was really tasteless,” Page said.

“But believe me, anyone else who had this house would be stuck with the same dilemma that I’m in, except they wouldn’t be able to make it a personality issue whereby let’s just talk about this one’s in music, that one’s in music. They’re at war. We won’t talk about is a grade one listed building with really fragile interiors. That’s what we won’t talk about it. We’ll talk about a load of nonsense.”

Page also invited The Daily Mail inside his London home to take photographs for an article published on June 15. “I’m caught in a vice,” Page said.

During the interview, he also criticised his other neighbour, Sir Harvey McGrath. “He’s a particular nuisance,” Page said. “He was recently knighted. You’d think he’d have some concern about the heritage of this building.”

July 2018: Jimmy Page invited The Observer into his home

On July 8, British newspaper The Observer published an article about Page’s home. It featured many photos, and an interview with Page. Page didn’t directly comment on Williams’ renovation work, but the author said that the noise in Page’s back garden was “deafening.”)

August 2018: Jimmy Page invited Channel 4 News into his home and Robbie Williams accused Page of ignoring his offers to meet

On August 4, British television channel Channel 4 News published a video interview with Page inside Tower House about the property and his dispute with Williams.

Page talked about his dispute with Williams and explained why he feels that he’s a “custodian” of the house.

“I’m not trying to stop people refurbishing their houses,” Page said, “whether it’s Robbie Williams side or the other side. It’s more a question that they don’t damage Tower House. And I seem to be the lone voice doing that.”

And on August 22, Williams’ property consultants Gerald Eve wrote a letter to the local council. In the letter, the company claimed that Page has been ignoring letters asking to meet about the disagreement.

“Our client has sought to engage with representatives of 29 Melbury Road regarding the basement proposals on multiple occasions,” the letter read, “including as part of earlier proposals historically in 2015, and on the current proposals from October 2017 onwards.”

“This has included several offers to meet and discuss the detail of the proposals in the period since without response from Mr Page and his consultant team.”

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9 Comments on "Here’s the complete history of the three-year feud between Jimmy Page and his neighbour Robbie Williams"

  1. I think whatever Jimmy Page wants he should have. Of course I’m very biased. I would be concerned also, if it were my old mansion. I appreciated getting to read the apology. Classy. I do wish both of you to become friends. ❤️

  2. I agre with Donna… Jimmy Page was there first and if he feels that someone is trying to ruin the grounds, then he should file complaints. I also wonder if Robbie is trying to invade privacy and then taunt Jimmy. Nice that Robbie wrote an apology but by mocking the Master… makes mewonder if Robbie is the one with the mental issue.
    Good luck and I hope that someday there is harmony. I mean each has enough to move…even though Jimmy was there first… or make more adjustments to their homes. Good Luck Jimmy!

  3. My feeling is this …… if you want complete seclusion go live in an area where no one can overlook you or get on your nerves ….. this is not an issue about personalities but facts …… to my mind it’s about a very talented dinadaur wanting to keep his privacy as a pose to another very talented popular artist who has a young family and wants to renovate his home for his family …… they are both artists who respect their privacy ……. if planning has been approved then it should go ahead …….. but then I’m not Jimmy Page …. we all have our own take on things ….. hope it resolved itself and Robbie is able to move back into his home and Jimmy at last finds peace with it !

  4. architect caique fellows | 1st June 2018 at 5:02 am | Reply

    It’s nice to see that Jimmy has architectural concerns, which seem not to be Robbie’s worry
    Watch out Robbie! Show some respect for historic architecture!

  5. Steve Wollard | 12th June 2018 at 5:57 pm | Reply

    “I think Jimmy is bored. I’m next door now, I’ve got a studio in my house. We could write songs together.”

    The man who wrote “Stairway to Heaven” and “The Rain Song” *could* be writing songs with this tosser? Well, I *could* stand in traffic and repeatedly punch myself in the crotch, but it ain’t gonna happen.

  6. My great great uncle, John Ayres Hatfield, made the bronze doors of The Tower House. I would hate to see anything happen that would compromise this fabulous building in any way.

  7. Why doesn’t Williams give up and build a McMansion in some gated subdivision? It would be far more suitable than trying to fit into a historic neighborhood of fine homes.

  8. Shame Jim didn’t just buy the Winner property when it was up for sale.
    Yes, it was expensive, but add up the cost of the lawyers, the experts and such, and factor in the valuable time spent trying to stay on top of it all and the time spent thinking about it, and talking about it, which all leads to aggravation.

    Worst of all, he’s at the mercy of other people making decisions that impact him and the future of the home’s fragile interior that he’s only trying to preserve. Tower House is not something that can be duplicated or mass produced, let alone repaired once compromised .
    Very sad indeed.

  9. Jimmy,

    Hold your ground, do not let that asshole damage a part of history.
    Good luck and God Bless.

    Lp

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